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TOGM does the Ice Bucket Challenge for ALS research!
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Magravan 20.8.2014, 10:05 PM edit delete
Magravan
For those of you who don't have us on Facebook, TOGM was challenged by our own PhilC - Sack Brigader! after his own webcomic, Living Room Wars completed it.

Well, though it might lack the same effect that it has on others, Beth has taken up the torch to see TOGM standing up and spreading the message about ALS!

www.als.ca/en/donate (Canadian version)
www.alsa.org/donate

It's definitely a worthwhile cause, and if people are donating (And they are!! It raised over $8.6 million in one day!), then this isn't just some stupid internet fad.

Thanks for reading, and I hope you enjoyed it :)
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Skrael (I'm the artist) 20.8.2014, 10:16 PM edit delete reply
Skrael (I'm the artist)
This was super fun to draw
Magravan 21.8.2014, 7:29 AM edit delete reply
Magravan
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for taking the time :D
PhilC 20.8.2014, 10:44 PM edit delete reply
PhilC
This is very awesome -- I have never loved Beth more! And that's saying something. LRW Mikuru is very appreciative. I ended up making a donation on her behalf because she was such a good sport!
Magravan 21.8.2014, 7:26 AM edit delete reply
Magravan
Hahaha, wow. I just went into full on rant mode there about companies asking for too much personal information for things like donating money.

Anyway, on a slightly less mouth-foaming note, thanks for including us, and thanks for your own efforts for the cause!
model S 21.8.2014, 12:16 AM edit delete reply
model S
I love how she is just like "oh.. right.. it's supposed to be cold..." actually.. if they flash froze the green stuff, could it survive...?
Magravan 21.8.2014, 7:28 AM edit delete reply
Magravan
Me too! This one was all June, so I can compliment the cleverness of the joke :)

I don't know the exact science behind flash freezing, and how it affects materials similar to the Green Stuff. I can't answer that question with any authority.
model S 21.8.2014, 2:35 PM edit delete reply
model S
Flash freezing uses liquid nitrogen to instantly drop something's core temperature into the negatives making it so it won't decompose, the green stuff would likely react like flash frozen icecream, a layer of frost over it and the green stuff a ball of ice. If the green stuff is completely biological, then it is unlikely to survive being unfrozen after flash freezing, however if it has a mechanical element, it is possible it could survive. You never really explained if the green stuff was nanomachinnes or 100% biological... or some mixture.
Magravan 22.8.2014, 7:48 AM edit delete reply
Magravan
In that case, the answer is a very enthusiastic "Maybe!" :)
model S 22.8.2014, 3:41 PM edit delete reply
model S
Ah you guys. Never gonna explain that one huh.
Magravan 26.8.2014, 7:06 AM edit delete reply
Magravan
I genuinely don't know the answer. I'm not being evasive because it's funny.

It's not 100% biological. Does that mean it's going to survive flash freezing? I have no clue.

As I said previously, I don't know enough about the subject to give a definitive answer.

I -do- know that MRIs kill the Enlightened. So that tells us that there is some non-biological material involved.
model S 26.8.2014, 5:40 PM edit delete reply
model S
Then it is more likely to survive, as an MRI would fry circuits, the biological part would likely die in the freezing process, but if the non biological part can survive without the biological part then it would survive. They sort of covered this in sonic, where the half robot girl was almost killed when a living virus was taking apart her mechanics, she can't survive without them, but her mechanics would be fine without her.
Magravan 26.8.2014, 7:32 PM edit delete reply
Magravan
Fair enough.
Guest (Guest) 21.8.2014, 11:58 AM edit delete reply
Also: Imagine nipples
Magravan 22.8.2014, 7:51 AM edit delete reply
Magravan
This was probably Skrael....

Anyway, as TOGM is a PG-13 comic, we suggest that you only imagine said nipples if you are of the appropriate age group wherein the nipples would be a lawful viewing experience in your place of residence.
model S 21.8.2014, 11:55 PM edit delete reply
model S
I realized something ironic. This icebucket als thing, my comic was going to start with a character having als, because there is no cure. Isn't that a kick of irony.
Magravan 22.8.2014, 7:53 AM edit delete reply
Magravan
I hope that had you included it, that you were respectful and informed in your depiction.
model S 22.8.2014, 3:37 PM edit delete reply
model S
Yes I was going to, I even had an author blurb typed up with the alsa.org site and a bunch of information on it. I know it not only attacks the brain and spinal cord, but also because of that causes muscular dystrophy, which can spread to the heart and lungs before much damage is done to the brain or spinal cord, killing the person because their heart or lungs became too weak to function, that was the part I was using.
Magravan 26.8.2014, 7:07 AM edit delete reply
Magravan
Sounds like you did some good research for it :)
model S 26.8.2014, 5:32 PM edit delete reply
model S
Quite so. I didn't want to insult anyone with als, and I didn't want to just use "generic incurable disease #7947074" because that shit gets old and lame. So I did real research, and used a real disease with no cure.
Magravan 26.8.2014, 7:55 PM edit delete reply
Magravan
Well, at least you are more knowledgeable about ALS, even if it didn't help much on your comic.
model S 27.8.2014, 5:03 PM edit delete reply
model S
Eventually deals with demons will get up and running. I just need to write better.
Magravan 27.8.2014, 10:27 PM edit delete reply
Magravan
Best way to get better is to do it. Deals with Demons doesn't have to be your magnum opus, it can be a stepping stone.
MrTTAO 23.8.2014, 2:01 AM edit delete reply
The problem with "awareness campaigns" is they are never done for something truly obscure. Everyone have already heard of the disease in question. People participating in the awareness campaign feel they have "done their part" and are thus less likely to donate. And because the barrier for entry is so low, a LOT of people "do their part" via "raising awareness". So, overall, awareness campaigns make things worse.
model S 23.8.2014, 3:26 AM edit delete reply
model S
Yes it is sad, but the people who do donate do help. If I had cash to throw around, I would donate.
Magravan 26.8.2014, 7:03 AM edit delete reply
Magravan
ALS research has something in the vicinity of what ... almost $80 million dollars that they didn't have before the Ice Bucket Challenge...

I highly doubt that they raised that much in the past .. probably several years, really.

So, in this particular case, I'm going to say that it is definitely achieving the goal, and very likely exceeding it by a large margin.
model S 26.8.2014, 5:28 PM edit delete reply
model S
One instance. Other research foundations should start these kinds of challenges.
Magravan 26.8.2014, 7:54 PM edit delete reply
Magravan
It's finding something that resonates with people while not flooding the market. I'm guessing that another, similar challenge would be poorly received if it happened too soon.
model S 27.8.2014, 5:01 PM edit delete reply
model S
Yea. That is true. It needs to be something new, but still something to challenge others with...
Magravan 27.8.2014, 10:28 PM edit delete reply
Magravan
Agreed :)
Rachel (Guest) 15.4.2015, 5:58 AM edit delete reply
Hey! I was just flicking through the comic from start to finish - the improvement you've made in your skills since 2009 is amazing! Go team you! :D
Magravan 15.4.2015, 8:13 AM edit delete reply
Magravan
Thank you! I will pass along the compliment to Skrael, I`m not sure how often she checks this anymore :)
Uberskeeve (Guest) 30.6.2015, 3:16 AM edit delete reply
Loving the comic.. but is it "dead" now as in no further updates?? If not, when might new pages be forthcoming?
Magravan 3.7.2015, 7:17 PM edit delete reply
Magravan
It is finished, no further updates.

There are plans in place for a new comic called Fuss and Shush, but I can't offer any timeline on when that may happen.
Guest (Guest) 21.8.2016, 9:54 PM edit delete reply
Can't believe it's already been over 2 years. Still have this comic Book marked.
Magravan 24.8.2016, 10:21 PM edit delete reply
Magravan
Yeah, it doesn't feel like it's been 2 years since it ended.

You were listed as a guest, so I'm not sure who you are :)
binn05 (Guest) 18.3.2018, 1:36 AM edit delete reply
Don't know if you guys will read this, but thank you. Was I nice ride since many years ago with I better ending that I only got to read now, LoL.
Are you guys drawing/writing anything else? Would love to read it.
Magravan 3.4.2018, 9:06 AM edit delete reply
Magravan
It is very unlikely that we will release anything else as a team.

I have written a script for another comic, but I don't think anything will come of it. Skrael has worked on EverydayAbnormal as an artist, and has put out additional art elsewhere.
binn05 (Guest) 12.11.2018, 10:44 PM edit delete reply
Thank you for your reply.
Tempus (Guest) 19.11.2018, 2:43 AM edit delete reply
Its been 4 years since I checked this site and this comic. Rereading it brought back good memories and I remember it inspiring me to try and improve my art. Glad to have reread this again.
Magravan 1.12.2018, 1:00 AM edit delete reply
Magravan
Thanks for letting us know. I go back and try to read through it on occasion, but the comment section usually pulls me away from it, and I end up getting lost in the nostalgia :)
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