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Magravan edit delete
Magravan
Hey everyone, hope you had a great week!

So, having figured out the means of Enlightenment, John is now free to make use of some of the remaining clones...

And with all those extra minds/bodies at work, he's been able to crack the code of TOGM...

The next comic will be jumping ahead in time quite a bit, but hopefully you guys recognize what this means for their society.

And with that, I'm going to upload it :)

Take care, have a great week, and we'll see you next week with #12. I can say that #13 blows the socks off of just about every comic we've done so far... I'm looking forward to it!
Magravan edit delete
Magravan
Oh! I said I'd let people know why it had to go down like it did. The plothole was that Sarah had been bitten, but Beth was apologetic about it, and Sarah was treated as dead and gone. In a society that just figured out Enlightenment, Sarah's plight was not all that bad...

So, I had to figure out a way to kill off Sarah permanently, so she fit into her place for the rest of the strip (mainly that of a martyr, dying for the cause).

It also had to be Beth's fault, to explain why she felt guilty over it.

The important part was doing it in a way that made it sort of Beth's fault, to the point where she would feel bad about it, but not so much her fault that John couldn't forgive her for it.

June initially suggested that we should have Sarah become really annoying, and Beth would beat her over the head with something in a fit of rage, due to her brain tumour.

I thought that this would be hard to ... justify? To let Beth do this, and yet still feel the way that we ideally do about Beth. Everyone makes mistakes, but there's a long way between accidentally letting someone die, or accidentally causing someone to die, and beating their brains in due to a mental instability...

It was also just the fact that Beth's tumour had really only been referenced as the reason why she didn't feel the overwhelming urge to eat brains, so making it into an excuse for homocide just didn't work for me.

Soooo, that's that. There probably should have been something more in this comic touching on Sarah's fate, but it's jumped ahead a few months, so I figure that John's already dealt with it emotionally and moved on.

Sarah being the direct cause for her own death makes John's forgiveness more believable in my mind.
User comments:
Lani Evitts (Guest) edit delete reply
Will the next comic explain why he's wearing a tux and holding a single red rose?
T.Gatto edit delete reply
T.Gatto
Isn't it obvious?

He has obviously been so busy making TOGM (and axe murdering clones) that he got behind on his laundry.

The Tux was probably the only clean garment he had lying around.

As for the flower, he just wanted to accesorize (and cover up the smell a bit). ;)

OK, maybe not...
Skrael (I'm the artist)
Any comments on the graphic on the monitor there? :)
Skrael (I'm the artist)
He loves Beth and wants her first glimpse of him in several months to be nice. That's why he shaved and cut his hair. He was so busy trying to replicate making TOGM that he let himself go. The flower might be to cover up the smell (a little bit) but I think it's a romantic gesture.
:)

PS I almost drew him with a nose plug on, but I didn't want to detract from the feels in the scene. :)
T.Gatto edit delete reply
T.Gatto
So, do any clones need to die to make TOGM, or can he just clone the grey matter?

Also, does this mean that; if a zombie was a 3 and degraded to a mindless 5 out of hunger, then the zombie ate TOGM again, would that automatically, and instantly, restore the zombie to the former 3?

Thus it seems that the degradation, due to hunger, is temporary if the hunger is sated (unless he fed her a lot of TOGM with a few clone brains thrown in for good measure).

I don’t really think John is cutting up random clones after releasing them, it would make for quite a plot twist though…
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
It's the same process that Robert uses. Very minimal amounts of cloned brains mixed with an unknown process which mass produces it. It won't be pretty (for a while, anyway), but it'll be functional.

Degraded to a mindless 5? If only! Eating TOGM after degrading to the functioning of a 1 would restore them to their typical level very quickly. It's like an electric razor... As it nears the end of the charge, it starts to buzz really slowly. Once it's had the opportunity to charge back up, it's fully functional again.
T.Gatto edit delete reply
T.Gatto
Oops, I got my numbers backwards... ;)

PhilC edit delete reply
PhilC
He loves her! Very nice. I have a feeling he's going to want to take that last step, to overcome one last barrier between the two of them. Or he'll be dying of old age -- can't let that happen. Just let Beth eat your brain and you can be together forever! And ever... and ever... and ever...
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
Now that's a wedding vow that would last!
Muchacho NL edit delete reply
Muchacho NL
Well, not really since he's a One then.
And a simple 'love bite' would suffice, as we've seen with Sarah.

In any case: they would first have to free more clones and have John eat them... or have him bite one, and make the other bite the rest.
That's how it worked with Beth: pyramid schemes.
Peter Palmiotti edit delete reply
Peter Palmiotti
At last happy moments all around.. can't wait to see where this all goes!!!
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
This is the brief reprieve :) Mwa ha ha.
aok666 (Guest) edit delete reply
But how is Beth going to tell the difference between John and the newly-released TomClones?
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
I'm sure she has her ways :D
model S (Guest) edit delete reply
Ermahgerd he looks like john again!! But yea. This is good. Yay! ... I have a bad feeling about this.
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
So cynical :)
model S (Guest) edit delete reply
Cynical? Oh please. You know as well as I do that bad things happen when everything is good. I mean remember when the phantom decided that it was ok to let robert rule and things were going ok?
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
I seem to recall that everything was fine? :)
model S edit delete reply
model S
Yea... until the bad thing happened and chekov burst in and smooshed bobbert's skull with his guns. Things kinda went to shit there for awhile. So... I may be a smidge jaded when good things happen in togm. -shrugs- but hey, that's just a theory... a BRAINS THEORY... ... ... that joke was terrible.
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
It was, but I'm okay with that. June and my son both quote the Games Theory line a lot ;)

To be fair, smooshing Robert's skull opened them up to figure out Enlightenment. With Robert controlling everyone, it would never have worked out.

So, to quote GLaDOS, "For the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead." :D
model S edit delete reply
model S
Fair enough. But still jaded about good things.
Annoyingstoryproblemguy (Guest) edit delete reply
A sniveling pathetic group of survivors has taken refuge in the northern regions of Canada, where the cold makes for a good barrier to the undead.

To the south of them, at a distance of 1,300 miles, and heading there way (at near Break Neck speed) is a vast horde of 2,000,000 zombies.

The poor hungry zombies can lurch at a rate of 30 miles a week, and (due to being frozen most of the year) they can only lurch for 3.5 months a year. The rest of the time they are frozen solid.

Making matters worse for the poor zombies, 50% of them do not survive the deep freeze, and another 10% either die or get lost along the way every month while making the long trek north.

The surviving horde of 2,000,000 has just survived the freeze, and is just now starting the Epic Lurch.

How Long will it take for the hungry zombies to get to the banquet, and how many of them will arrive? Round to the nearest week.

Show your work, and use your brains. :)
Muchacho NL edit delete reply
Muchacho NL
Assuming an average of 4.33 weeks per month, and traveling 3.5 months like you said, they would travel 30 miles * (3.5 * 4.33 weeks = 15.155 weeks) = 454.65 miles a year, since they're frozen solid for the rest of the year.
1,300 miles to cross, 454.65 miles per year = 2 years and 3 months and 12.5 days. Give or take a few hours.

As for how many:
Year 1: They started their first march, so 200,000 will die by the end of their march. 1,385,100 will deep freeze, and only 692,550 will survive.
Year 2: 479,625 will freeze again after the march.
Year 3: 239,812 have survived the freeze and start walking.
Since they don't need a full 3.5 months, but about 2 days less, I assume a death rate of only 4% in the last month.
That will leave us with 167,830 live zombies.

So after a little over 2 years a total of 167,830 zombies will arrive at the doorstep of the sniveling pathetic group of survivors.

EDIT: rounded it down to 4.33 weeks a month (52 weeks a year)

You wanted it rounded to the nearest week: 2 years, 3 months and 12 days = 119 weeks.
Assuming they started last Tuesday when you posted this problem, they will arrive on Tuesday October 25st 2016
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
You failed to take into account the Canadian wildlife, who successfully murder the remaining, slow-moving threat. Meaning the sniveling humans survive, because Canada is awesome :D
T.Gatto edit delete reply
T.Gatto
It is good to know that Canada has the Zpox thing under control...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BWie8PmhIs.
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
Haha! You think I trust a politician to be able to adequately protect us from Zombies? Hell no.

www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html

I trust in the inhospitable temperatures and the murderous zombie killing wildlife! I trust in the land itself!
Annoyingstoryproblemguy (Guest) edit delete reply
OK; My answer (please feel free to dispute it) is that approximately 16,284 happy buy hungry zombies will arrive to eat the pathetic humans in approximately 4 years and 8 weeks.

Travel Time:

1,300 miles 3.5 months (15.115 weeks) a year 30 miles a week.

Beginning of first year 0.0 miles traveled. In the 1st 15.115 weeks they travel 453.45 miles.

Beginning of 2nd year starts at 453.45 miles traveled. So at the end of the 2nd 15.115 weeks they travel a total of 906.9 miles.

Beginning of 3rd year starts at 906.9 miles traveled. So at the end of the 3rd 15.115 weeks they travel a total of 1060.35 miles.

Beginning of 4th year 1060.35 miles traveled. That leaves 239.65 miles to travel or 7.9 weeks (rounded to 8)
So they will reach the pathetic humans in approximately 4 years and 8 weeks.

Zombies Left:
Beginning of First Year 2,000,000 happy but hungry zombies are headed north.
3.5 months walking they lose 10% per month.
So after the first walk they are down to 1,385,100 (2,000,000 X.9, X-9, X.9, X.95)
Then they lose ½ their numbers in the freeze so 692,550 are still headed North after the first freeze.

Beginning of Second Year 692,550 happy but hungry zombies are headed north.
3.5 months walking they lose 10% per month.
So after the second walk they are down to 479,652 (692,550 X.9, X-9, X.9, X.95 rounding the .5 down)
Then they lose ½ their numbers in the freeze so 239,826 are still headed North after the second freeze.

Beginning of Third Year 239,826 happy but hungry zombies are headed north.
3.5 months walking they lose 10% per month.
So after the third walk they are down to 166,116 (239,826 X.9, X-9, X.9, X.95 rounding down the decimal)
Then they lose ½ their numbers in the freeze so 58,058 are still headed North after the third freeze.

Beginning of Fourth Year 58,058 happy but hungry zombies are headed north.
3.5 months walking they lose 10% per month.
So after the 4th walk they are down to 40,208 (58,058 X.9, X-9, X.9, X.95 rounding down the decimal)
Then they lose ½ their numbers in the freeze so 20,104 are still headed North after the 4th freeze.


Year 4 (only 8 weeks)
Starts with 20,104 Happy Hungry Zombies
I rounded to 2 months here so:
20,104 X.9, X.9 rounded down =
Approximately 16,284 Zombies remain*

*As James pointed out this does not facor in the "Killer Moose Factor".
responding to math prob.. (Guest) edit delete reply
A little under 128,000 arriving in 3.095 years.