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2nd Feb 2011, 6:00 PM
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Author Notes:
Magravan edit delete
Magravan
Hey everyone! I hope you're having a good week so far.

I think that because of the fact that most of you have read the comic over a long while, this wont have the same "aha!" moment that I'm hoping would accompany a shorter read through. If you go back through it, you can see that Sylene has been antagonistic and somewhat passive/aggressive towards Beth since the start. Hopefully this helps to explain some of it. Sometimes it's hard for me to tell if I've foreshadowed enough, or if the moment was even noticed... I guess we'll see.

In other news, we got hit with a fair dumping of snow, enough that it was declared a snow day for the busses. Thankfully, I didn't have to go to work anyways, so it wasn't too much trouble for me... Except that we had planned to go out today, and I figured that we could put it off until tomorrow. I'm sure I'd have been fine driving, but it ups the risk of something going wrong, even if it is just another driver hitting you. Might as well see how it is tomorrow instead :D

We put together a new T-shirt design, which is based on the picture from the voting incentive, if you've seen it. I'll probably get June to finish fixing it up and then maybe post it on Saturday.

Well, that's it for me, have a great weekend :D
Skrael (I'm the artist) edit delete
Skrael (I'm the artist)
What do you think of the way I did Sylene's hair int his one? Keep this way, or stick with the old?
User comments:
Brain eater (Guest) edit delete reply
Funny last two panals
Rival Comics edit delete reply
Rival Comics
I just finished reading the whole archives. Awesome. By the way, I really like her hair in this one! Rival Review will get posted soon!
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
@Brain eater - Thanks ;) I thought June did particularly well on the Sylene as a One :D

@Rival Comics - Looking forward to it :) Roughly how long was the archive binge? And did it make sense? I'm always wondering if we managed to make sense, or if it relied on my explanations in the Author's Notes / Comments to really understand it :D
MatthewJA edit delete reply
MatthewJA
What a dangerous personality.
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
Sylene?
MatthewJA edit delete reply
MatthewJA
...yes...
Antimony-120 (Guest) edit delete reply
Er, is the "aha!" supposed to be the "Beth made Sylene and Chad zombies, and by the way she happened to do it while they were 'doing it'"?

Or is it the way that makes Beth feel guilty about the whole thing, and also annoyed because of the whole cheating thing, and then there's that Sylene is probably in the same boat in reverse?

Either way, it seemed fairly obvious to me from comments made earlier, but I archive binged. If it's another "aha!" that I've missed...well I'm just too dumb to see it.
Brain eater (Guest) edit delete reply
LIke I said before great comic just don't go all +EV on this (they just randomly stopped making new comics)
MatthewJA edit delete reply
MatthewJA
Sylene? GUILTY?
She probably blames Beth for the whole affair.
ranger_brianna_new edit delete reply
ranger_brianna_new
"One? No, no, I so totally did a speak-o (typo which is spoken). I TOTALLY meant Two. I mean, you can make that mistake on a keyboard, so I accidentally made it when talking! Totally!" :P
On a side-note, I think the readers have been assuming Sylene was enlightened by Beth for, like, since you mentioned Beth only enlightened two people. I think Beth said that before we even knew Sylene, too. :P
(Also, I thought I was the only one here who read +EV, heh.)
ranger_brianna_new edit delete reply
ranger_brianna_new
...Am I the only one who suddenly has trouble with the TOGM forum and am directed to a comic page (or rather, a notification that no such page exists) instead? :/
dr pepper (Guest) edit delete reply
You know, when Sylene was first introduced she seemed like an annoying brat. But now i feel sorry for her. As a 3, she isn't smart enough to help out with either the administration of the new order, or the conspiracies to change it, but she can remember that she was smarter in her mortal life.
Kristy edit delete reply
Kristy
Wooh~ I really like Sylene's hair, Skrael. I say keep it!

And I like how you drew her as a One. XD It turned out well!
greengirl77 (Guest) edit delete reply
It hurts to type because I hurt my shoulder in a slip and fall in the tub, but I had to tell you I <3 Sylene's hair!
P.S. In regard to June's comment in the last thread regarding her art, stop calling your art bad! I <3 it and your comic and I am a picky woman!
Jamming edit delete reply
Jamming
Keep Hair [STOP] Thought Video of Sylene Zombie Origin in Underground Bunker [STOP] Suck In Telegraph Mode [STOP] Help Me! [STOP] Don't Stop [STOP]...Argh! [STOP]
Sincerely, Jamming [END]
Jrade edit delete reply
Jrade
'Neither of them made it out of the house'

Yep...quotes prove that we already knew. Or, leastways, we had the capability to do so.

I had suspected that Sylene harboured a little resentment, but it's good to see that reinforced. Personally, I'd be thanking whoever enlightened me - Mr. McWither has a point.

The hair looks cool this way - but I'd suspect it's more work, eh? You could go either way with it.

I also think that One Sylene is pretty hilarious, and highly detailed. I especially like the drool...in a train-wreck kind of way.
ranger_brianna_new edit delete reply
ranger_brianna_new
Not that it really matters (fanboys are just obsessive about every little detail :P), but would her hair (if she were a One) actually be that color? :/
redder edit delete reply
redder
iv been folowing for a good few weeks now but it all made sense to me when i first read through before reading the comments
also i really like the new hair style :)
Skrael (I'm the artist)
Ranger: It would not be that colour. In fact, she'd probably be bald or have chunks of hair missing. But it didn't look like Sylene at all that way, and I didn't want to confuse the readers too much. She's already lost her makeup, her contacts, her boobs .. etc.
PixieSingsBass edit delete reply
PixieSingsBass
Love the hair, Skrael! It looks softer, more touchable.

My first thought on Sylene as a one was, she looked like someone had cleaned her up. No scars, no open wounds, no tears in her clothing. I just assumed that was Sylene's visualization and as such inaccurate. That also explained the hair colour.
Lunaroki edit delete reply
Lunaroki
Whoa! Zombies can cry actual tears? This comic seems to continually challenge my preconceptions of what a zombie can and can't do. Not that this is a bad thing. :) Also, I'm loving Sylene's hair!
model S (Guest) edit delete reply
.... this one pretty much speaks for itself.

my time to 1year (cretion) (the first time i was totlly caught up)was a total of about 4 hours. of course i was multitasking like crazy.

i like sylene's new hait. also i like "1 sylene" too i wanna see her s a 2. that'd be funny.
ranger_brianna_new edit delete reply
ranger_brianna_new
Sylene's new hait?!? B-but, we were finally starting to warm up to her! Why would she earn strong despise all of a sudden?!? :P
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
@MatthewJA - You could have been talking about the Phantom :)

@Antimony-120 - Well, Beth did make Sylene and Chad zombies, they were her two kills. But that was sort of hinted at before by Beth.

No, I think I was a little too subtle in the aha moment ;) That's okay though, if the readers aren't seeing it yet, then it counts as foreshadowing ;D

@Brain eater - We're not going to randomly quit, but there is the potential that someday we might quit. If we do, I guarantee that I will make an author's note letting people know that we've decided to quit, and then make a gigantic blog entry that will explain the loose ends. Or let you know that I'm writing it as a novel ;D

@MatthewJA - She certainly does.

@ranger_brian_new - Yeah, we did know about Beth enlightening the two of them, I think.

As for the forum, it's temporarily down until I can figure out how to get it to work properly despite the site redirecting http://greymeat.com here. I got sick of the slow, dead, mess that the GoDaddy hosted one was, and I disliked sending people to a page that essentially said as much.

I posted on the forum trying to see if I could get some help to make the forum work anyways, but my thread kind of got hijacked, so ... what are you going to do, right? I'll work on trying to figure out how to get the forum sorted... Do you go via the link here or a bookmark?

@dr pepper - Sylene's supposed to be a character that is hard to pin down whether you want to root for her or not. I personally adore her. She's my second favourite character after R.Z., but he has the fact that he's based on my son working for him :)

@Kristy - Thanks :) I liked her as a One too, even though she was Too Sexy for a One. :)

@greengirl77 - Ouch, I hope you feel better soon! Did you tear muscles trying to catch yourself, or hurt it on impact with the tub?

As for June, she does better art when she has more time to devote to it. If we only ever updated once every two weeks, you'd have art that would look great all the time... So I think that she gets frustrated because she knows she can do better, but she has to build up her skills so she can be that good while maintaining twice (or more) a week.

@Jamming - lol :) Who would have thought telegraph jokes could be so awesome? :) And there is a video of the situation, but it's not inside Sylene's house, so it requires some logical leaps of faith on the part of the viewer.

@Jrade - Just because it is true doesn't mean that she can't still feel resentment. We actually debated on the drool, but we opted that because it's Sylene's mental imagery, it can look like just about anything :)

@ranger_brian_new - It wouldn't be, no. But that doesn't mean Sylene wants to imagine herself completely unattractive :)

@redder - Great, thank you for letting me know ;) I love your icon :D

@PixieSingsBass - Exactly right. Much like the story being told in 300 is a tale to inspire men to bravery without necessarily focusing on the truth and nothing but the truth, it's filtered through the mind of the person.

@Lunaroki - Given Sylene's tendencies, it seemed like an upgrade she'd go for :) She probably wouldn't have been able to afford it except that Beth's been guilted into bankrolling her TOGM supply most of the time, allowing her to save her credits up ;)

@model S - Poor abused Sylene :) I appreciate the time that readers have to take in order to catch up with the story.. I might make a synopsis at some point so people can start the story later on...
moizmad edit delete reply
moizmad
I haven't got to her hair yet, still drooling over her legs.
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
Maybe if her skirt was shorter, eh Mo? ;)
redder edit delete reply
redder
@Magravan thanks about the icon :) now that i figured how to make a profile ill be commenting more so nice to meet ya all. looking forward to the next installment =D
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
That's great :D It's pleasure to meet you!

Where's the picture from? Did you draw it?
redder edit delete reply
redder
yeh i had a look through my sketch pad its just photo on webcam lol
did skrael do yours by any chance? it looks good
ranger_brianna_new edit delete reply
ranger_brianna_new
I have the forum loaded, Magravan. I don't remember how I originally got there. :P
redder: It's actually Kristy's, of Wake the Sleepers.
redder edit delete reply
redder
ahh thanks ranger i thought it had a different style but i wasnt sure
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
@Redder - Yeah, it's Wake the Sleepers.. She basically hosted a Werewolf game on the CF forums, and I was the Mercenary... Skrael got very sick and had to quit the game, so we asked if we could give her a death scene as well, and I got an absolutely exquisite picture of a guy who looks very much like me in my combat t-shirt saving June's avatar :D

I liked it so much, I use it all over the place now, even on my Facebook and such.

@ranger_brian_new - I think you can link to it directly, but I'm not sure how it'll work...
DaeBrayk edit delete reply
DaeBrayk
Hope it's not supposed to be a dramatic reveal that Robert started the zombie plague.
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
I think we've established that it wasn't dramatic in any sense of the word... Subtle... Unknowable... What reveal? .. Those might all be descriptions of the reveal.

I'll make it clearer in the next one, I think. ;) And no, pretty sure it was already common knowledge that Robert started the whole thing. Cuz he's a jerk.
greengirl77 (Guest) edit delete reply
I fell and caught myself with my hand but slipped and ended up bruising my rotator joint or something, all the bones in my shoulder are bruised. I hate being limited! It shall pass though, but I couldn't resist commenting on my favorite zombie comic :)
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
Ouch, sounds like it would really hurt.. We appreciate the dedication to commenting :D

Better your shoulder than your head though, that's for sure.
redder edit delete reply
redder
maybe it was beth started it all off and robert just capitalised by not stopping after becoming a 4 and knowing what he was doing and thats why Sylene is blameing her ........probs not though lol
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
Robert's higher on the totem pole, so I'm going to say probably not ;0
redder edit delete reply
redder
i know just everyone assuming things that havent yet been reveled ......i knew that my comment was probably a load lol
MrPriest (Guest) edit delete reply
Love it! I never replied here, but I'm reading for some time now.

I've been wondering - Why does Phantom have an eye patch if he can replace an eye? Or maybe his group just can't get new parts, or just won't bother with it?
Nash (Guest) edit delete reply
I spotted an ad for the comic this morning. It looked interesting, so I clicked. 1 read through the archives later, and here I am!

The great story combined with the amazing artwork really has me hooked! I'll definately be checking back and keeping up with this one!
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
@redder - That's definintely an "Out there" theory :)

@Mr Priest - The Phantom basically only fixes what he has to, and doesn't really bother with the rest. He also saves his limited resources for his people, rather than himself.
model S (Guest) edit delete reply
maybe i can help with a synopsis, i've pretty much figured out the arcs and how long has passed, sofar as i can tell it's been about 2-4 months in comic time. i could be off, but the arcs are pretty easy to divide up and such. and of course i'll give each arc a silly name like "green 'stuff' microscopes and wangs"
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
2-4 months? Where'd the time go? Felt like a few days for me :)
model S (Guest) edit delete reply
well i'm giving john time to get aquanted with the shelter, and time for beth to get over all her anger john did screw up ALOT.
StreetBoyWill (Guest) edit delete reply
WHOO! Just finished every single archived comic......and now I've got to do about a months work of homework in about 18 hours. Your damned awesome comic stopped me from doing any of it over the last day-or-so.
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
@model S - Oh... Surprisingly, I think Beth got over it a lot faster than that... And John hasn't had much time in the shelter.. His ability with the system is part of the intelligence that was mentioned early on, but you rarely see.

@StreetBoyWill - We're actually trying to get TOGM listed as an official, acceptable excuse for late homework. Thusfar we've only got one University to accept it, but I'm starting to wonder if they are legitimate. They keep trying to get me to send them money to free a Prince in Egypt, after which I can be reimbursed... ;)
hagelander (Guest) edit delete reply
why would you replace an eye?
eyepatches are AWSOME
especialy when stapled directly into the head
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
Well, there is that too :D Glad to see you back, Hagelander :D
dr pepper edit delete reply
dr pepper
Testing to see if my avatar shows up
Magravan edit delete reply
Magravan
It certainly does :)
Beta Maxis (Guest) edit delete reply
So the dumb ones that got ate first are threes and twos, and the ones smart enough to die last are ones. No wonder fours are rare, lucky ones that were smart and died early.